What I think when Angel says he started the whole soul having thing.
Yes, because he thought it would get him the woman he wanted and couldn’t have. The same woman he had just tried to force himself onto after trying to convince her that she really did want him, despite her protesting otherwise.
Yes, Spike went and got his soul, rather than having it thrust upon him in retribution. But don’t sit there and act like he was all big and noble about it. This act, like everything else he did for Buffy prior to mid- to late-season 7, was done out of selfishness and hubris.
*awaits the hate mail*
He wasn’t trying to get her when he went to get his soul. He felt bad about what he did. Sure he felt that maybe her feelings would be different but he never came back and was all ok now let’s be together because I got my soul he just hoped for forgiveness and he wanted to be a better person.
The point is he didn’t like what he did and went to change it and Angelus didn’t care how bad he got and wanted to keep on doing bad and never wanted his soul so for him to say he started is a dumb comment because it wasn’t his idea to have it.
If it wasn’t for the curse being put on him he would of never felt anything for Buffy and they would of never been able to be together again. Angelus had 0 love for anyone.
That’s cause Angelus was a big serial-killing dickface but Angel was a bro and Buff loved both of them so I say